Tom Moulds and My-Linh Ngo on impact-aligned debt investing
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Can debt investors promote positive change in the world by investing in the expanding ‘sunrise’ industries of a sustainable future rather than the ‘sunset’ industries of our past? If so, where would this approach sit in the ever-broadening spectrum of sustainable investing strategies?
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In this Focus, My-Linh Ngo, BlueBay’s Head of ESG Investment, and Tom Moulds, a senior portfolio manager, tell us how they came to design BlueBay’s first impact-aligned debt strategy. The world is in a race against time, and Ngo thinks that an impact-aligned stance could speed up our transition to a low-carbon, more socially responsible society.
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While impact-aligned strategies may not be pure impact investing, they still turn the debt investment selection process on its head, says Ngo. “The first filter for the new impact-aligned strategy is whether a company is providing a product or service that addresses a specific environmental or social problem as defined by seven critical sustainability themes,” she says.
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In particular, it’s proving hard for the industry to craft affirmative debt strategies that channel capital not just to responsible companies with high Environmental, Social and Governance (ESG) ratings, but specifically to companies rolling out products and services that support key aspects of sustainability such as enabling the circular economy, building human knowledge and skills, or ensuring clean water.
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The world is in trouble and we need to shift the pace and scale of change to address this, which means the debt market must play its role,” says My-Linh Ngo, BlueBay’s Head of ESG Investment. Her concern is not only about the urgency of
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Ngo agrees that secondary debt investors who direct their capital towards sustainability-building activities can’t easily prove conventional additionality. “But you are still allocating capital purposefully to a progressive company and potentially helping to reduce its cost of capital over time, and you can improve its sustainability impact through all the engagement you then have with the company,” she says. The fact that some other debt investor might have supplied equivalent capital should not negate these positives.
Can debt investors help fund the world’s sunrise industries?
“Public debt markets need to help companies that are actively promoting sustainability to scale up, or those companies will forever stay small or mid-cap and we're not going to get the transition we need,” she says. “And if you look at the fundamental overhaul we need in order to decarbonise much of our industry and infrastructure, the type of returns and risk profiles for that is often more suited to the debt asset class rather than equities,” Ngo says.
She argues that companies helping to solve her seven challenges are part of the world’s new ‘sunrise’ industries, as opposed to existing carbon-intensive or socially negative ‘sunset’ industries.
We brainstormed the most important problems facing the world and then built the themes around those
This kind of ‘impact investing’ is conventionally defined in private markets in terms of whether the investment makes a tangible, measurable difference that is ‘additional’, in that it would not have occurred without the investor’s intervention.
Jewell says that BlueBay takes ESG risks into consideration across all its investing, including conventional strategies, but that “our global high yield ESG strategy sets a much higher bar, beyond investment materiality, on how we integrate ESG into the decision making.”
It’s a problem that My-Linh has been exploring alongside Tom Moulds, a senior portfolio manager at BlueBay charged with developing BlueBay’s first impact-aligned debt strategy over the last year or so. The strategy will predominantly invest in liquid, public-market corporate debt and that careful choice of phrase – ‘impact aligned’ – turns out to be critical to how the pair thought through the challenge.
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Ngo explains that to qualify for the new strategy, “the company’s core business should be involved in solving for one of our seven environmental and social challenges, for example a drug company solving healthcare issues or an educational publisher solving for a social need. But it wouldn’t cover, for example, a general food retailer that simply cuts down its waste, unless perhaps that retailer is a totally organic food retailer.”
Pragmatic positives
“We try to quantify the extent to which each business is solving a sustainability problem using a combination of absolute and relative ‘positive materiality’ indicators like the percentage of revenues they get from the qualifying product and service – e.g., ideally it needs to be more than 50% of revenues – or the percentage of their profit it contributes, or what global or market share it commands,” she says. The more criteria an issuer fulfils, the stronger their case for inclusion.
decarbonising the world economy but also social needs highlighted by the pandemic including upgrading healthcare and education.
(1) There’s also industry debate over whether the term ‘impact’ should be reserved for philanthropic investors who are happy to make concessions on the expected rate of return.
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“We didn't create the seven themes with the credit market specifically in mind,” says Moulds. “Instead we brainstormed what we thought were the most important and critical problems facing the world and then built the themes around those.”
The same kind of subtleties apply around any negative exclusion thresholds in an impact-aligned strategy, says Moulds.
Thoughtful threshold
Some major utility players in renewable energy retain small amounts of legacy coal generation capacity, he says, to make sure they can fulfil their energy commitments to the authorities to ensure the reliability of the power system. Taking an absolute stance – rather than applying a thoughtful threshold – might rule out companies pioneering the world’s energy transition.
The world is in a race against time, and Ngo thinks that adopting this kind of impact-aligned stance could help sustainable debt investors scale up their ambitions. “We're looking to fund mass market activities that have positive impact,” she says.
Sustainable sunrise
“By targeting sunrise rather than sunset industries we are hoping we can generate positive returns as well as promoting low-carbon transition and a more socially responsible society – a real win/win situation.”
We try to quantify the extent to which each business is solving a sustainability problem
That view was tested somewhat during the corona crisis turbulence in March 2020, when the team say “the ESG strategy tended to marginally outperform our conventional high-yield strategy, and the damage done to commodity prices was a factor in that.” Conversely, “the conventional fund tended to outperform the ESG fund during the recovery phase.” (See figure below)
But designing sustainable debt strategies that help fund large-scale change while also meeting investor needs is not easy.
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But that’s a lot easier to claim when investing in, say, the equity of a risky start-up, than when investing in the liquid debt of a more mature company through the secondary debt markets – even though sustainable ventures may need both forms of capital during their life-cycle in order to thrive.(1)
Calling BlueBay’s new strategy ‘impact aligned’ rather than ‘impact’ signals that, “we’re taking care over our terminology while also taking the concept of impact investing just about as far as we can in public bond markets,” says Moulds. Ngo says, “the phrase also signals that while this is about investing in companies offering solutions to major world challenges, the strategy is not about concessionary returns or illiquid markets.”
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“If the issuer does fit within the themes,” says Ngo, “we next ask, are they involved in any other business activities that breach our ethical exclusions? Then there's a third hurdle of whether they run their business in a socially responsible and environmentally sustainable way.” The survivors are then put through BlueBay’s rigorous credit selection process to assess their financial attractions.
She prefers a pragmatic, composite approach over one that insists all firms meet all thresholds. “Consider the instance where a company gets 40% of revenues from a qualifying healthcare product, failing the 50% threshold, but that 40% represents 60% of profits,” she says. Likewise, a fledgling sustainable firm that spends all its R&D on a qualifying product but has little in the way of revenues might fail a revenue test, but still be a legitimate agent of change.
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What is the purpose of the strategy?
We wanted to design a fixed income product that could help provide solutions to sustainability issues while also aiming to deliver attractive returns. Some people think those goals can't go hand-in-hand, but we believe they can.
This is about investing in companies that promote a low carbon transition or a more socially responsible society. We’ve designed a multi-thematic strategy, embracing environmental and social themes, that enables us to invest across the credit spectrum and globally.
What kind of assets are likely to be in the portfolio?
Our selection process focuses on what the corporate issuer does and whether it is doing enough of it. Not on the bond label.
Will green bonds be an important component?
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Polina: For example, in the pre-Covid world, we’d travel to a country together and look at corporates, sovereign, local currency debt holistically, i.e., look at all the opportunities within a country and try to identify for each individual country which assets offered the best risk-adjusted return, almost being agnostic about which sub-asset class those returns comes from – while remaining wary at the portfolio level of the potential stress correlations. Nowadays there’s lots of video calls!
How does that shape your day-to-day investment activities?
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Tom is a Senior Portfolio Manager within the Investment Grade team focusing on European non-sovereign debt. Tom joined BlueBay in December 2005 as a tactical software developer in the IT team and joined the Investment Grade team as an assistant portfolio manager in July 2007. Tom has been instrumental in driving the success of the European IG credit strategy in which he is a lead portfolio manager, as well as developing the growing buy-and-maintain strategies in recent years. During his time as a developer, Tom wrote and implemented the profit and loss systems used in the hedge fund strategies across all asset classes at BlueBay. His knowledge and design of these systems has been one of the factors in the prolonged and successful track records of the absolute return and hedge fund strategies managed by the team. Prior to BlueBay, he worked as a financial analyst at the UK head office of Schneider Electric and as a financial software consultant at Beicon Group. Tom holds a BSc degree in Mathematics from the University of Wales, Swansea, and is a CFA charterholder.
This is about investing in companies that promote a low carbon transition or a more socially responsible society
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Anthony is a Senior Portfolio Manager within the Emerging Markets Team. Anthony joined BlueBay in March 2006 and his primary portfolio management responsibilities include the EM long-short credit strategy, the EM Unconstrained Bond Fund and the suite of EM Corporate long only funds. Prior to joining BlueBay, he held a management position at National Australia Bank. Anthony holds a Bachelor of Commerce degree from the University of Melbourne, a Graduate Diploma in Applied Finance and Investment from the Australian Securities and Investments Commission, and is a CFA charterholder.
The team is not siloed, we're all based in London, because the asset class is so interlinked now
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The quick answer is no. We are focusing on investments we think have some ability to perform, to generate alpha.
Will you invest in debt with low risk-adjusted returns if it offers strong sustainable qualities?
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Is the outlook sustainable?
Anthony: Often we'll have a portfolio manager, a sovereign strategist and a corporate strategist, a financial analyst, all bringing different perspectives. The team is not siloed, we're all based in London, because the asset class is so interlinked now: you can't understand Brazil without understanding that country’s oil production sector, for example.
Emerging market debt: Four main sub-asset classes
• USD-denominated sovereign debt • USD-denominated corporate debt • Local currency-denominated sovereign debt • Local-currency-denominated corporate debt
We see that investors in emerging markets usually combine different asset classes without enough reference to their very different volatility regimes.
So the assets will be predominantly publicly-traded, liquid corporate bonds, spanning investment grade, high yield and emerging markets. But we will also look at some sovereign-backed project-labelled green, social or sustainability bonds, where we believe that the use of proceeds is contributing to one of our sustainability themes.
Client feedback suggested the majority would like a main focus on investment grade issuers, so the strategy looks to invest a minimum of two-thirds in investment grade issuers, with up to one-third in high yield. The geographical dispersion again plays to investors’ concerns about risk. We’ve said 80% or so of the portfolio will be in developed markets with a smaller portion for emerging markets.
What is the balance in terms of credit quality and geography?
We ask: Is the issuer helping to solve the sustainability problem that we want it to solve? That said, if an issuer that meets our sustainability criteria happens to have a green bond, we may well select it.
One reason is that many issuers issue their green, social and sustainability-linked bonds out of exactly the same entity from which they issue their normal bonds. There's no ring-fencing around that money or around how they use the proceeds.
Why don’t you use the green label as a short cut?
But that doesn't mean we won't invest in debt that offers, on the face of it, low returns because there will be a whole spectrum of quality of issuers in this portfolio. For example, a vaccine bond guaranteed by the UK government might not look cheap but may still be of very high credit quality and offer a huge amount of social capital.
There will be some scenarios where we think a green bond framework is robust enough. But one of the key developments I would like to see is issuers creating a separate entity to really ring-fence those assets.
I think one of the dangers in sustainable investing is blindly buying sustainable assets after they have already got very expensive. So the key challenge we face is not compromising too much in terms of valuations.
What was the key challenge you faced in developing the strategy?
We go through a particularly meticulous process for this impact-aligned strategy. The first part, when we started building the strategy, was to screen the whole universe of potential investments.
How does your investment process help select sustainable opportunities?
We screened out issuers we knew we could not buy due to our criteria. Then we used programming languages to write routines to interrogate data, mainly from Bloomberg, to create a potential universe of issuers that fit our sustainability themes. Our data science approach is something that, we see, relatively few other sustainable investors do, as yet.
Then there’s an iterative process of narrowing down that universe through a combination of looking at things more carefully and bringing in the analysts. We've educated our analysts on our sustainability criteria to make sure they really understand what we're looking for.
I guess the first stage of building a potential universe is almost like a quantitative process. We screened 4,000 global corporate issuers down to around 200-250, for example, through various sorts of iterative processes. But, yes, then we're working with the ESG team and the bottom-up credit analysts – there are around 30 at BlueBay – to interrogate those issuers to see if they really do meet our qualifying criteria for the impact fund.
It’s a mix of data science and human judgment?
For qualifying issuers, we then ask: Does this work from a credit perspective? Here we apply our well-established and rigorous BlueBay investment process to make sure that we're selecting issuers with the ability to generate attractive returns.
How do you factor in the financial analysis?
Of course, we also go direct to individual analysts and encourage them to offer names that could work for this strategy from their coverage universe. They come to us with ideas, and we “kick the tyres” on each idea including the impact criteria.
Everybody has got a stake in this strategy, from portfolio management, to analysts, to the ESG team! It may be the first strategy at BlueBay to have such an intense degree of collaboration. Personally, I’ve found it fascinating to deal with so many analysts from different teams and collect so much information from different areas.
Is teamwork critical to this kind of multi-theme global strategy?
Our data science approach is something that we see relatively few other sustainable investors do, as yet
In the long run ESG will drive asset performance, particularly among institutions that have to stand up and be accountable to their members